Registered: 1401123537 Posts: 21
What is the role of Compass in this debate? How much of a priority do you think this should be for Compass in the next few months?
I would find a sharing of views helpful. My constituency is Brecon & Radnor which is on the list of Green-vulnerable seats, whereby a Green vote could install a Tory MP. The latest Ashcroft poll is rather unclear as after a certain amount of fiddling it appears to give the L Dems a lead - however the raw data shows them behind Labour and Cons romping home. My vote would be between Labour and L Dems depending on whether I thought the Tories could be beaten (I vote L Dem) or would win anyway (I vote Labour). My rationale is 1. as few Tory seats as possible; 2.as high a Lab popular vote as possible, as the result nationally could be so tight this is part of the possible resolution process. Keen to hear other thoughts on this. Rick, Presteigne
Registered: 1424785919 Posts: 2
this IS an issue worth pursuing. I shall be active in both my own seat and Norwich South which is a target seat, up to the election. Then I shall vote Green in my own constituency - as widely advertised in advance on all social media - as the Tory incumbent is unlikely to be beaten by the Lib Dem who is the main alternative. In this case my dilemma is resolved as tactical voting by me alone is unlikely to make the difference needed. But I shall be supporting ALL parties opposed to the Tory incumbent as far as I can up to the election with the objective of securing as large an opposition as possible.
My constituency is Chesterfield. T'was Labour until Benn left in 2002 and then went to Lib Dem thanks to astonishingly short sighted Labour candidate selection, demographics and Tory voters voting for Lib Dem.
In 2010, a poor 63% turnout and Tories voting Tory again saw the Lib Dem dumped and Labour returned with a small majority. Lib Dem loss of support since 2010 may see our MP increase his majority in May. Tactical voting is playing havoc with our seat, but it seems that people are voting 'against' and not 'for' anything. I would rather we had an honest Labour agenda, a PR system that allowed a second choice of vote (to assist in validating the credence of the various coalition possibilities) and a measure of 'compulsion' to eliminate the low turnout that is eating away at the credibility of our electoral system.
Compass could play a role in facilitating tactical voting. For example, providing information about the views of various candidates/parties and their likelihood of winning a particular seat.
I'd be very grateful if Compass could organise a Labour-Green vote pair site. I'm a Green party member, inclined to vote Labour in my local constituency to unseat the sitting LibDem, but would be really happy to do so if someone else would vote Green in return in theirs - ideally in a Green winnable seat.
Registered: 1424883058 Posts: 3
Compass should inform the public that they've got a secret weapon by which to defeat the vested interests of the City, big business and their political lackeys. A huge power that would change society and the economic system to bring about great benefits for all people. A magic wand that would make all inequity dissolve. It is, of course, the vote, but it must be used wisely and to good effect.
London Strategic Voter
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I agree with Unregistered at #6. I am a Green party member in a Lab/Tory marginal seat currently with a very slim Labour majority. I want to vote Green and am unenthused by Labour, but I really do not want let the Tory in. I would love to pair with a Labour party member in a Green target seat (or ideally a Labour party member living in Brighton Pavilion) so that we both get value from our votes in spite of our crap electoral system. It will be an interesting exercise to see if Labour people are prepared to offer something to their natural allies.
Registered: 1424958237 Posts: 1
Yes, think it's absolutely a good idea for Compass to do whatever it can to organise tactical voting and anything else that will prevent the Tories or UKIP being elected. I expect most Compass members will be aware of their previous local election results, and use it as a guide to tactical voting, but perhaps many people are oblivious. However, as with the non-voters, we can't guarantee that such people would end up voting the way we would like. But still worth a try. Personally, I don't hesitate to vote tactically. If Labour truly has no chance of winning a particular seat, there's always an alternative that is more left-wing than the Tories or UKIP, eg, LibDem or Green. We shouldn't feel too bad about doing this; it's the only way of coping with our first past the post system.
Registered: 1424792720 Posts: 1
I come from a background in environmental activism and may of my wide network are staunch greens. I have also stood for the green party in the past at a local level. However, I recognise the current Labour party to be a potential alternative to New Labour but they are being constantly tarred by that brush, which of course plays into the hands of the New Labour agenda. As far as I can see we urgently need a Labour government, one formed by the current Labour leadership. And one in coalition with the SNP/Greens would legitimise a move towards the left for the Labour party and also give the other parties a workable platform, and this is the only way I can see an anti-austerity movement having a basis within mainstream politics at a critical moment. I am taking a lot of flack for this position from politically active and seemingly astute greens at the moment and finding it very tiring. Tactical voting is essential, but many people get this wrong, I am concerned that the green vote could be the same in effect as last time (when many people mistook the lib dems in being representative of the left) in allowing the tories in, if not played very strategically. Caroline Lucas has stated publicly that the role of the greens is to move Labour to the left and she is correct in this potential, as I recognise they are extremely constrained. So my questions are, how to convey this message and ensure that tactical voting occurs which delivers the very necessary outcome described.